Opiate Gang

Cooked · 2022-10-08 19:00

m92fs wrote:

Thanks for the update @cooked, its been quiet here lately. I too have come to similar conclusions. I said pretty early on that I don't think its the same drug but its pretty similar. Its absolutely an inferior product to the m30s so I dont understand the reviews saying its stronger.
I'd feel a lot better about them if they were cheaper and with it being weaker, the price increase and the added danger of research chems makes this product a very borderline purchase for me. My tolerance is less than yours but I used to get a good night out of one of the blues but its moved to 1 and half and is more expensive. Given the state of the opiate market in NZ I think I still will purchase again but if they raise the price again I'm out.
Question to the guys who take these. How much would a night on a pharama opiate like oxy or morphine cost you vs how much it would cost you for a night on these? For myself, I feel like its getting close to the cost of oxy for a night and the closer it gets the less appealing these are.

I have gotten particularly bad lately with the pharmas mate. My source has trays of Oxycodone (ER) 80mg. So I have been going hard on them, wayyyyyy too often. I have to drop 5-6x Oxy 80mg (So 400-480mg) to get a nod on. But I still feel something if I only take 2x Oxy 80mg (So 160mg). I am about to take a tolerance break though and spend next weekend eating benzos and going through withdrawals. Not looking forward to it, as you can imagine.

gingerbreadman · 2022-10-08 21:50

Bugger mate, thatll be rough. Maybe get some kratom and loperamide. Also, make sure you go for a benzo with a longer half life such as diazepam if possible. Not telling you how to do your business, its just something often overlooked! Might want something for nausea and a stash of electrolytes if its gonna be a tough one. Good luck bro!

Cooked · 2022-10-09 16:20

gingerbreadman wrote:

Bugger mate, thatll be rough. Maybe get some kratom and loperamide. Also, make sure you go for a benzo with a longer half life such as diazepam if possible. Not telling you how to do your business, its just something often overlooked! Might want something for nausea and a stash of electrolytes if its gonna be a tough one. Good luck bro!

Nah you're onto it. That is literally my go to for withdrawals:
- Kratom
- Valium
- Imodium
- Powerade

At least I have only been abusing for approx 1 month, so hopefully its not too bad. Last time I went through it was after a month of abusing the Oxy M30 and I managed alright. So if I can manage that alright hopefully pharma Oxy should not be any worse!

Cheers cob!

GearLife69 · 2022-10-29 00:20

Hey All,

Have any of you got on suboxone before, prescribed legitimately? I have let my oxy habit get to ridiculous levels and want to go down the suboxone route to get off the oxys. I started using the oxys for chronic pain (And to get high), so am hoping if I do get prescribed suboxone then it will help with my pain too. A couple of questions for those knowledgeable:
- Do I get prescribed it by my GP or a specialist/clinic? If the prescription comes from the specialist/clinic, do I need a referral from my GP or can I do a self referral?
- What was your experience with them effects wise?

I am going to post this as an independent post as well to reach as many people as possible

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m92fs · 2022-10-29 13:20

I haven't heard much about people being prescribed it here in NZ so I would say its fairly rare and probably hard to get prescribed. They might try push you on methadone but that almost seems like a prison sentence having to go get your dose every day. Both drugs also come with their own horrific withdrawal so you will have to face it some day.

Have you tried Kratom? Its expensive on the market here but there are dutch clear web sites that sell it for very cheap and so far 100% of my deliveries have gotten through customs without issue. I would suggest you try get some and try and get off the oxy with that. It really helps the withdrawals and can actually stop them outright.

Sure its one addiction for another but Kratom is much easier to get off than oxy, is much much cheaper and you won't be labelled as a drug seeker for the rest of your life from doctors etc.

gingerbreadman · 2022-10-29 23:00

Hey man, i think suboxone is more the go to over methadone these days if you go thru an A and D clinic as it blocks other opioids so does more of the job for them! Its also not as enjoyable to abuse so they arent as worried about diversion. You could go to a doctor for a referral but if you contact A and D services locally they should be able to book you in for an appointment and can get it prescribed from there

gingerbreadman · 2022-11-01 21:40

There is fuck all available now unless you can fork out enough for oxys (or dont require ridiculous amounts of them!) What are you guys doing to scratch the itch these days?

gingerbreadman · 2022-11-06 00:10

Have any of you guys ordered heroin off any of the UK vendors that are selling at the moment?

m92fs · 2022-11-06 09:20

@gingerbreadman, I'm using this time to take a break mate. I have shitloads of kratom, and though its obviously no where near as good as the real opiates, its just about good enough to stop me from obsessing over buying and taking them.

I got some dhc last week and although its considered a weaker opiate, I've always felt like my body processes dhc and codeine very efficiently as I have never been affected by the ceiling these drugs are supposed to have and can have just as much a good time on them as I can with oxy. The only issue is that I have to take very big doses and that ends up being pricey.

I'm waiting for our boy with the yellow pills to come back. There not great but they will do. Although I have a sneaky suspicion he will raise the price on return and if he dose I'll probably move on to something else as I might as well buy oxy if there are anymore price raises.

diggeroo · 2022-11-06 14:10

gingerbreadman wrote:

Have any of you guys ordered heroin off any of the UK vendors that are selling at the moment?

I was trying to decide which vendor too. Pharmafrance always came through for me but he has stopped selling.

Those blue/yellow pills are probably not coming back, because the media gets so hyped about RC opiates. To get those again , might need search them on other markets.

gingerbreadman · 2022-11-06 15:20

I had a talk with MyFoodBag because i suspected the same thing, and he said he wasnt going to sell them any more. While im a bit gutted i also understand, the synthetic opioid situation around the world makes for explosive content for nz media. but also pushes nz police towards doing more and considering int. help, especially after the article about tormarket! i enjoy dhcs too actually, but the same kind of problem, enough of anything to feed my appetite pretty much consumes my whole budget! I had a shipment of kratom not show up for the first time ever so im hoping the next one does. i use it in the same way, not like an opioid but a daily medicine, keeps the obsession and craving at bay and makes me feel better. but as soon as its gone i go full fiend again and i havent had it for ages!

diggeroo · 2022-11-06 17:00

@m92fs how many DHC do you take at once? I recall some document saying the ceiling was about 300 mg, but not sure if that is true.

Also when I run out of oxy or morphine , to avoid withdrawals, then I take promethezine with the DHC.

m92fs · 2022-11-08 23:40

Usually take around 10 or so. Gets expensive though for one hit. I took nothing but codeine for years and I always read the ceiling was 400mg online. I've taken many doses between 400-800mg and for me the high 100% got progressively stronger and no ceiling was observed.
I guess there is only 2 options for this. Either I can metabolize codeine much better than the average person or its just one of those internet myths that everyone just parrots.

Just got conformation that there is no more m30s. That kinda sucks. Wonder if someone else will sell them

Xar777 · 2022-11-09 10:50

damn m92fs that's a shit-load of DHC! You have a really decent tolerance there..

I don't think DHC has any ceiling dose as such, not from pharmacological point of view anyway, you'll reach toxicity well before any such ceiling.

Personally I start getting a bit of nausea around 180mg (3 pills) of DHC, but I'm probably a real light-weight compared to some of you folk here! Mind you, only ever dose around 2-3 days per week max and have been doing so for years.. so maybe that's been enough to keep the old tolerance in check (or I'm just sensitive).

For an opiate naive person even just 120mg of DHC can make you quite sick. Seen it happen to a friend who I gave the DHC to, oops.. felt pretty bad about that.

My current regime is 90mg DHC + 150mg Tramadol + some nice weed and I feel fucking great nice long lasting high too.

Also got a stack of dried poppy straw that I grew a few years back, might have to get stuck into that shortly as the potency is starting to go down a bit now due to being so old..

gingerbreadman · 2022-11-09 22:10

Nah there isnt a ceiling effect for DHCs im pretty sure, i take 15 60mg dhcs and definitely get more of an effect than if i were to take less. The benefit of them over codeine, apart from being stronger and in my opinion, in a completely different class of opioid!, is the ability to take top up doses. If im correct, codeine clogs up the receptor that is used to convert it into morphine, meaning that for a good while after taking it you cant repeat the process. And im pretty sure i wont be the only one here who has tried to do this and been disappointed by the results haha. I believe it is metabolized by CYP2D6 but then leaves it inefficient for a period of time afterwards, but id be lying if i said i understood more than the basic chemistry of this!
Speaking of poppy straw, hit up the vendor DryBugs for poppy seeds, he supplies them and is an all around good cunt. I know hes active on the forums, but cant remember which user but is a great vendor to deal with.

m92fs · 2022-11-09 22:40

@gingerbreadman, are they any good for poppy seed tea? I've heard about people taking it but never tried myself. If they are, how much would you use?

DryBugs · 2022-11-09 23:00

No, you could never get high off the seeds at the price I sell them, and given that I only ever had about a dozen grams available. You'll want to cultivate them and save the seeds, and use those to grow a lot more next year, and then you may have...

Might try a baking supplies store for that style of usage, people in a flat I was in back in 2007 did that a lot, some bakeries are opium-friendly, some will only sell seeds that are washed ie all the opium has already been removed. Though to be honest the tea they made always made me sort of sick, I've discovered that my stomach is a little bit opiate sensitive and I tend to chunder if I go to fast.

Any previous customers want to be given the amount of seeds they'd get if they ordered at my current clear out prices I will honour that till I run out of seeds. I just wanna get rid of them so NZers are growing this season. Maybe we can compare results next season. I may have a new strain available next spring, not sure what exactly it is, seeds were white not black, interesting... I'll try and grow it so it doesn't cross-contaminate the black-seed current strain I have.

Btw, I started some poppies of the strain I'm selling in autumn earlier this year indoors, then planted them outside... they survived the winter (this is in the top half of the North Island), got enormous woody stems, actually, freakish. And flowered very early this spring. They likely would have been great plants, massive stems and probably root systems too, but I pulled them out with the pods still quite young (no or few viable seed in them) to make room for this summer's crop. Seems like it may be an option, or at least an experiment to do, if you want max growing

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gingerbreadman · 2022-11-10 21:50

Unless you are incredibly sensitive to opioids, poppy seed tea is a waste of time. All parts of the opium poppy contain opium alkaloids, excluding the seeds. So basically you are just getting the residue off the outside of the seeds! - thats to the best of my knowledge, just remember i have done a lot of drugs over the years before you take my word as law haha. Opium poppy POD tea, is fucking great though. Its like the most natural version of the chemicals we all know and love. I for one, recommend a good mug while staring vacantly at the lights on the christmas tree over the upcoming festive season! Im deadly serious by the way. I add ascorbic acid (vitamin c) and grapefruit juice to dried crushed pods for alkaloid extraction and potentiation.
If anyone has dried pods it would be good to see them listed actually, i used to buy shitloads on trademe for "flower arrangements." But assholes like me are probably the reason florists cant find them on there anymore!

zac · 2022-11-10 23:40

Grapefruit juice + poppy? I knew it was good for dxm

gingerbreadman · 2022-11-11 21:40

Yeah grapefruit juice is a really good potentiator for a lot of opioids and bezodiazepines. Fucks with the metabolizing of a lot of chemicals! Funnily enough, DXM is a sort of potentiator for opioids too, or at least a small amount of it can help stop tolerance building when taking them

DryBugs · 2022-11-11 23:00

gingerbreadman wrote:

So basically you are just getting the residue off the outside of the seeds!

You need like 250g seeds in a litre of water, haha. My flatmates would put it all into a 1.5 litre coke bottle and walk around shaking it for 10 minutes before splitting it up. Probably with a bit of lemon or something in it. But because poppy seeds are a bulk baking product I dont think the price was unreasonable. I think some places sell poppy seeds that are washed so theres no opium remanants on them, in case someone tries this and gets no effect.

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fei · 2022-11-14 22:10

gingerbreadman wrote:

Funnily enough, DXM is a sort of potentiator for opioids too, or at least a small amount of it can help stop tolerance building when taking them

Taking an opiate on the comedown from a healthy DXM dose was one of the most euphoric drug experiences of my life. A disso+an opiate+a psychedelic is also pretty great.

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m92fs · 2022-11-20 12:20

Whats everyone buying at the moment? Things were good for a while but it looks like its gone back to the same old prices ( costing a couple hundred for 1 days worth of high ).

Personally I've taken a bit of a break and have just been on Kratom. I miss my opiates though.

gingerbreadman · 2022-11-20 20:50

Nothing off TM lol

m92fs · 2022-11-20 22:20

@gingerbreadman Is there much opiates on the streets in NZ? Ive never come across it so unfortunately this is my only way of getting them. If there are, are they cheaper and easy to find?

gingerbreadman · 2022-11-21 22:00

Yeah, you just have to know the right people, Iv always found them cheaper in person, i guess you pay for convenience. then again, people know i am a good repeat customer and i always pay my bills. i had a great pharmacy connect until circumstances changed, the shit they just throw away would make you weep!

m92fs · 2022-11-24 20:00

Ive seen it all now. There is a listing for DHC at $1 a mg on the market now lol.

havent heard from cooked in a while, wonder if hes all good

gingerbreadman · 2022-11-24 21:50

christ iv honestly never paid more than a dollar a pill. man tormaket is pretty fucking dry for opioid users these days, doany of you guys use other dnms? im looking at importing pharma fent patches to be honest, fuck i miss fentanyl! i havent talked to cooked recently but he kicked the oxy for a tolerance break i think so that might be why

m92fs · 2022-11-26 18:00

Your right @gingerbreadman. Its such a bad time to be an opiate user on the market now. Not only did I see that laughable price of $1/mg DHC, which has been changed now but still ludicrously high, it looks like one of the main oxy dealers has increased his oxy to $3/mg. I wonder if any vendors read these threads ( would love to hear for you to chime in here if you do ) and realize there are lot of potential customers not buying.

@gingerbreadman, its gotten to the point where I would risk private deals from the forum here. If you have real world connects maybe this would be something you are interested in. I wouldnt mind you adding on a percentage to make it worth your while as long as it wasn't the kind of stupid prices we see here.

gingerbreadman · 2022-11-26 22:50

Haha yeah i was just about desperate enough to pay the already ludicrous amounts they were asking for the oxy and then they jacked it up again, i guess due to the lack of other options we have. To be honest its probably good that it put me off so i didnt waste my money. Then again, they are selling them so i guess they know what they are doing, its just no good for those of us with a tolerance! I see mikeperronz is back with a new account too. I wish hed sell halves and id actually probably check it out! I think if you were selling opioids itd be stupid not to monitor what the main customers were saying, but who knows! I know farmerjohn used to check out the threads but he didnt sell opioids, it was just for shits and giggles.
Yeah im the same with private deals, but im pretty sure its banned on the forums. i dont have any good hookups at the moment anyhow, thats why its a d ire situation for me! its all tramadol and suboxone bullshit around me since my pharmacy friend lost their access.
Ive started scouting other markets since noone is currently filling the void!

gingerbreadman · 2022-11-26 22:50

Have any of you guys used Darkfox market?

gingerbreadman · 2022-12-04 21:40

Spoke to Cooked, hes been having trouble posting comments on the forums for some reason, but wanted me to let you all know he is doing well!

Cooked · 2022-12-06 21:00

Hey Lads

Cooked · 2022-12-06 21:00

Fuck finally a post works!!!!

m92fs · 2022-12-06 21:20

Good to see you back. Things have been bleak on the opiate front around here

Cooked · 2022-12-06 21:20

Ok, sorry for the spam but I am going to post my original post from a week ago across a few posts to bypass the security on here. Here we go:

Cooked · 2022-12-06 21:20

Yeah I am all good. I actually tried commenting on threads a couple times but when I clicked submit an error came up so I gave up.
Kicked the habit yet again, used methadone and tapered down from 30mg a day over a week.

m92fs · 2022-12-06 21:20

Cooked wrote:

Yeah I am all good. I actually tried commenting on threads a couple times but when I clicked submit an error came up so I gave up.
Kicked the habit yet again, used methadone and tapered down from 30mg a day over a week.

Nice, I'm currently in a mild withdrawal due to running out of kratom and pills. Had time to step down before I ran out though. Nothing major but still annoying. Waiting on some pills to come in but shit, things are as bad here as they've ever been. Got too used to the couple good months we had here with the RC stuff

Cooked · 2022-12-06 21:50

m92fs wrote:

Cooked wrote:
Yeah I am all good. I actually tried commenting on threads a couple times but when I clicked submit an error came up so I gave up.
Kicked the habit yet again, used methadone and tapered down from 30mg a day over a week.
Nice, I'm currently in a mild withdrawal due to running out of kratom and pills. Had time to step down before I ran out though. Nothing major but still annoying. Waiting on some pills to come in but shit, things are as bad here as they've ever been. Got too used to the couple good months we had here with the RC stuff

Fuck that sucks bro. Any idea when your gear will arrive? What you got on the way? I would offer to send some done up but I have cleaned out my source of methadone and sent it to my mate up North going through withdrawal after losing his supplier of 3 years!

diggeroo · 2022-12-07 01:40

Has anyone looked on Alphabay etc, for those blue M30 (fake oxys). I was keen order over December period. Or maybe only one batch ever got made and now we won't see them again as China adds more RCs to their ban list.

Cooked · 2022-12-07 09:30

diggeroo wrote:

Has anyone looked on Alphabay etc, for those blue M30 (fake oxys). I was keen order over December period. Or maybe only one batch ever got made and now we won't see them again as China adds more RCs to their ban list.

I second this. If anyone has seen them advertised on another market and it looks like the vendor would delivery to NZ - I would be keen to order some. I personally think they were so much better than the yellow shit pills MyFoodBag was selling for more expensive. It went from decent product, reasonable prices to shit product and worse prices... This is the way of most Tor vendors unfortunately. Greedy fucks.

m92fs · 2022-12-07 15:10

Thanks @cooked but I let myself run out and withdraw pretty often. I don't want to have to withdraw from opiates after a prolonged months / years binge which would be a nightmare. Also the frequent withdrawals reminds me that these aren't to be taken lightly and keeps the fear of withdrawal low since I'm kind of used to. Still sucks a lot though lol.

Man I miss those blue pills. For a short while it seemed like we had a steady, cheap (relatively speaking) supply of gear for the first time ever. More of those would be great. Even the more expensive shittier yellow pills were still better than the current supply but what can you do. If anyone ever finds these things again let us know.

gingerbreadman · 2022-12-07 20:50

M30s are pretty widely available worldwide, the problem is you never know whats in them. they were one of the ones that started popping up in the us when everyone went into panic mode over fentanyl. just be careful, as a dealers clientele get more tolerant, they start putting more of the active ingredient to stop them from straying to other dealers. some of those pills theyv confiscated have has 5mg of fentanyl in, where as they (not that id take "they" as a reliable source) think that over 2mg could be fatal for your average joe. i have talked to a couple of vendors looking at getting more presses in, tis just s delicate matter with how dangerous they can be, and how much publicity the metoz got.
Iv now backed myself into a shit situation too by relying on diverted suboxone as maintenance and picking upmy benzo use to boost it. I fucking hate subs and now even if i find a decent source of something i like/ can afford, il have to go into withdrawal before i can use it!!

gingerbreadman · 2022-12-07 21:30

Seems like the H vendor who was mikeperonz has restarted with 2g minimum orders again and has sold...... 2 units

gingerbreadman · 2022-12-09 22:40

Out of curiosity, how many of you guys actually buy opioids locally off tormarket/ how often? Or import them internationally? Im just wondering how many of the more serious opioid users actually pay the price thats offered these days on TM? I havent ordered an opioid off the market in months!

Cooked · 2022-12-09 23:50

gingerbreadman wrote:

Out of curiosity, how many of you guys actually buy opioids locally off tormarket/ how often? Or import them internationally? Im just wondering how many of the more serious opioid users actually pay the price thats offered these days on TM? I havent ordered an opioid off the market in months!

Apart from the brief window of pressed zenes, I have not ordered any opiates off Tor market since back in 2020. Back then I was opiate naive, so low tolerance and would just buy them every now and again purely out of curiosity, or sometimes if I had leftover BTC in my wallet. Apart from a couple of failed attempts at importing 1g lots of H internationally. Given up on that now though until I see a half decent vendor shipping from a less scrutinized country. We need a CanadaGoodies but for H!!!! I just had a decent size order of MD arrive from CanadaGoodies - Hes def the best international vendor I have dealt with on Tor in a while!

m92fs · 2022-12-10 09:20

Unfortunately I've never had an in person connect for opioids. Do you guys get them on the street and how much cheaper are they? The only place I can get them is here so I wait for decent deals and keep myself going with kratom that I import. I average 1-2 sales a month I would say.

Would be a lot more if the prices weren't so shit. People selling oxy for $3 per mg and slow release morphine for $2.20 per mg can fuck right off

diggeroo · 2022-12-13 12:30

I'm trying a heroin order with Tomandjerry. All the other international vendors have no reship or refund polices so choose Tomandjerry because they are cheapest and no-escrow is no disadvantage when the other vendors won't reship.
Probably just throwing my money away but maybe if they at least ship it there is a chance it will arrive with all the extra Christmas mail.

gingerbreadman · 2022-12-13 21:50

Iv had the same plan to order while the customs agents are under the pump! I was looking at a german heroin vendor due to NL being so hot,. i have got i thru from tom and jerry once or twice, they mylar it, wrap it in paper and pretty much just hope for the best! If iit comes through and you want to offset the cost, flick me a message im really keen for some right now,

Cooked · 2022-12-14 23:40

I have ordered MD and H off tomanjerry in the past. The first approx 6 orders arrived sweet and then out of the next 6 orders like 2 arrived. No love letter or visit from LE. I suspected Selective Scamming, Hope yours comes through though!

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