Buying lsd with diazepam or another benzodiazepine

squarecircle · 2019-10-16 17:00

Are any lsd vendors willing to sell me 2 pills of a benzo at the same time. I want to have some in case my trip goes bad. I don't really want to make a large order of benzodiazepines from a separate vendor.

Ruakaka · 2019-10-16 18:10

You should learn to ride it out

squarecircle · 2019-10-16 19:40

Good point Ruakaka. I have heard that so called 'bad' trips are best thought of as learning experiences. I have also been practicing meditation as a way to hopefully help me if I am in a bad situation. I just want some encase it goes really really bad. I also want it as a way to reassure my trip sitter that we have a backup plan.

Psychedaddy · 2019-10-16 19:40

I'd have thought by the time the benzo kicks in, your trip may be about to pass the bad part anyway.

Ronald McDruggled · 2019-10-17 01:10

Am currently trying to source some pharmaceutical benzos.

Some benzos are fast acting and suited to panic attacks (and therefore in turn, short lived bad trips I guess), alprazolam in particular can be used sublingually for extra fast onset.

This is just my opinion but I think suggestibility/placebo is also a major factor, I've literally served people ice cold water and fruit because "vitamin c mellows the trip" and then they chill out

Ronald McDruggled · 2019-10-17 01:20

In the meantime I have antipsychotics and melatonin that can be brought in relatively small quantities, not as convenient as benzos, not selling lsd atm and I wouldn't be able to compete with others on price anyway.
Antipsychotics can definitely shut down a trip although the chemical straightjacket effect might not feel so good, melatonin at least based on my own experience could potentially mellow a trip and help with sleep afterwards.

squarecircle · 2019-10-17 02:20

Thanks for your input Ronald. I had a look at your quetiapine and did some research on it. I read some reports on Reddit of people feeling bad after using it as a trip killer. I think it was that chemical straightjacket effect that you mentioned. Yeah, I have also heard that alprazolam has the fastest onset.

squarecircle · 2019-10-17 02:30

Re Psychedaddy: Maybe, I guess if its going really bad it can't harm. I was watching this video (1) and he said that if you chew it and put it under your tongue it can take 15-25 minutes to kick in.

1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNumchkj1XQ

rangerwrath · 2019-10-17 19:30

If you are that scared of having bad trips don't push the dosage to much. All the people I know that have had bad experiences go for stupid amounts like 500ug+. If you wanna go that deep just work your way up to it.

squarecircle · 2019-10-18 00:40

I agree rangerwrath. I have done a 100ug trip and I am planning on doing a 200ug next.

Ruakaka · 2019-10-18 08:00

I'd reccomend reading James Fadiman's Psychedelic Explorer's guide if you're atleast one bit "serious" about tripping.

squarecircle · 2019-10-18 10:10

Good recommendation Ruakaka, I read it earlier this year

samtheman1990 · 2019-10-23 13:00

I'm of the personal opinion that there is no such thing as a bad trip - only difficult ones (and i've had a fair few difficult ones) - provided you have a decent set, setting and an experience trip sitter to talk you THROUGH it (not out of it) - a lot of growth and healing can come from difficult experiences.

Be sensible with doseages, have a clear intention and a well thought out setting - and you should be sweet

Some of my most valuable experiences on psychedelics are the ones i would not be eager to repeat (!)

salmy · 2019-10-23 14:20

While I certainly haven't had any really bad trips, it definitely is possible Sam, I've heard of some absolute horror stories. I definitely think that having a Benzo on hand isn't a bad idea, even just the thought of knowing you have an option if things go south would be reassuring.

Some people might be of the belief that you should just ride it out, which in most cases I agree with, but some of the reports I've read have been horrible, and permanently scarred people etc, definitely would be a good option to be able to abort it in those cases

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samtheman1990 · 2019-10-23 14:40

I guess i should clarify - I meant i believe (imo) there's no such thing as a bad trip provided you have the other bases covered - if you don't, I can certainly see how you can spiral down the rabbit hole with unconstrained carnage and suffer PTSD as a result.

I had a particularly gnarly one a month or two back on some LSD - poor setting..

But i did have a good sitter close by who, although was initially flustered, managed to ground me quite successfully and i spent the remainder of the trip purging (crying) with a huge emotional release. Without him, it certainly would of been possible to spiral into the abyss.

I had another on ayahuasca which was basically 6hours of fighting pure, unconstrained and unrelenting chaos... Some may of called that a bad trip but it's probably been my most valuable ceremony to date

With respect, intention, mindfulness of the 6s's - "Bad" (read:PTSD inducing) trips can be all but eliminated... doesn't mean your exempt from difficult ones though

All just my opinion though

squarecircle · 2019-10-23 14:40

Thanks for your thoughts samtheman1990 and salmy. I agree with you both. I think that learning from difficult experiences is very important but also that there are some bad trips that are more traumatising than useful.

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