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can anyone tell me how to buy bitcoin?
Hard im feeling amateur as fuck I'm keen to learn someone help so I can make my order im new to this shit so I'm confused af.
Buying the btc is probably the easiest step if you want to buy shit properly and safely.
There are many tutorials online eg darknet market bible
Go to coinbase.com or
localbitcoins.com
Follow the instructions there
Thank you guys, appreciate it ?
Impressive that someone who doesnt know how to buy bitcoin can figure out how to get here.
Here is one I've seen on the nzbitcoin subreddit https://www.easycrypto.nz/
Also these sites compare prices of different sellers
https://cryptospot.nz/
http://bittybot.co/nz/buy-bitcoin-new-zealand/
Last edited by TormarketSupport (2019-09-15 13:00)
Remember to put your BTC through a tumbler if you don't want your purchase to be associated with the ID you have to use to sign up to the local bitcoin seller's service.
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Do you absolutely have to use a tumbler using btc?
Can anyone recommend me one?
I would be surprised if any law enforcement were analyzing the payments so buyers may want to skip techniques to obfuscate the payment trail.
Even if they were, they would need to be paying for orders (or be a vendor) to learn about the wallet. And they would need to do that continuously because the wallet is reset periodically to stop analysis. Vendors should really choose new payment addresses every week or so as well to make analysis harder.
As TD says, I know that many of my customers are paying directly from Localbitcoins. And they have never been arrested. So honestly, buyers dont need to tumble.
At the end of the day, LE really dont care about buyers. Vendors/importers/admins are the targets.
Your transactions are still traced through your bank or debit and can easily be lead back to you if you are using NZ exchanges / local bitcoins. If there are bulk buyers reselling i'd imagine you could end up a target.
I'm only ever buying monero then use xmr.to. I reckon btc for buyers isn't that safe at all and tormarket should add xmr eventually.
I wouldn't make the assumption that LE doesn't bother to look into X.
Of course if you wanted your OPSEC to be the best it could possibly be, you wouldn't be on here at all.
I agree that it would be pretty difficult to trace the trasactions as tormarket refreshes their addresses regularly but if LE really wanted to, of course they could compromise anyone with enough time and money.
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I think it's a good idea to go Localbitcoins -> personal wallet -> vendor... at least.
I think it's a good idea to go Localbitcoins -> personal wallet -> vendor... at least.
Yes, do that. Then to prove a purchase was made, they need to prove you control the personal wallet. That would require them to take your device for analysis.
any thoughts on the opsec of moving bitcoin from place of purchase to a non-KYC exchange then from there to tor market vendor? Assuming of course that your account on non-kyc exchange is anon and you have only accessed it via tor so is not traceable to your IP.
any thoughts on the opsec of moving bitcoin from place of purchase to a non-KYC exchange then from there to tor market vendor? Assuming of course that your account on non-kyc exchange is anon and you have only accessed it via tor so is not traceable to your IP.
When you transfer into an exchange all the funds end up in a pool and when withdrawing you should receive different coins. If you vary the output amounts so they aren't to similar to input amounts, then only the exchange operators should know the association of funds in to funds out.
When you transfer into an exchange all the funds end up in a pool and when withdrawing you should receive different coins. If you vary the output amounts so they aren't to similar to input amounts, then only the exchange operators should know the association of funds in to funds out.
Yes, that was my assumption so opsec is reasonable provide the caveats above, non-KYC exchange with 100% anon usage.
tormarket wrote:When you transfer into an exchange all the funds end up in a pool and when withdrawing you should receive different coins. If you vary the output amounts so they aren't to similar to input amounts, then only the exchange operators should know the association of funds in to funds out.
Yes, that was my assumption so opsec is reasonable provide the caveats above, non-KYC exchange with 100% anon usage.
If you want to do it this way instead of using coinjoin to mix, you could use a chain of exchanges, but a lot of work. And you never know for sure if they haven't got a contract with a blockchain analysis company sell data.
Scary stuff. Thanks for the info.
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