EmpireNZ Exit Scam?

empirenzexitscam · 2021-12-10 12:10

New products for great time of the year.

Had a list of 4 ounces of mdma left..now has 500gs available.

82 orders in the last 2 weeks, only 3 feedback.

Admins put a pause on this cunt till some feedback comes in, stinks of a exit scam.

UlrikaMonkey · 2021-12-10 13:10

You would think the admin would be extra cautious around this time of year where everyone wants their new year goodies and so it tends to be the time when vendors exit scam.

I think the market should enforce escrow over December at the very least...

empirenzexitscam · 2021-12-10 14:20

easy 25k plus in the last week or two for Empire.

EmpireNZ · 2021-12-10 15:00

No scam going on here lol. We restocked the mdma because it sold fast.

123chaser · 2021-12-10 17:40

he has 4 finalised orders confirming delivery from buyer last few days so people are getting orders , also some1 has just posted feedback. couriers are taking 1 week at the moment for overnight delivery. also he has just put himself to vacation so this does further mitigate a exit scam.

lowermesoftly · 2021-12-10 21:30

EmpireNZ wrote:

No scam going on here lol. We restocked the mdma because it sold fast.

Not sure if you are exit scamming, but why did you get the pics off Reddit? (for the green rolex)

EmpireNZ · 2021-12-10 21:50

lowermesoftly wrote:

EmpireNZ wrote:
No scam going on here lol. We restocked the mdma because it sold fast.
Not sure if you are exit scamming, but why did you get the pics off Reddit? (for the green rolex)

Because the pills we have look exactly the same and it was easier to just grab a picture like that rather than taking one my self.

lowermesoftly · 2021-12-10 22:50

EmpireNZ wrote:

lowermesoftly wrote:
EmpireNZ wrote:
No scam going on here lol. We restocked the mdma because it sold fast.
Not sure if you are exit scamming, but why did you get the pics off Reddit? (for the green rolex)

Because the pills we have look exactly the same and it was easier to just grab a picture like that rather than taking one my self.

Figured as much, looking forward to trying them

EmpireScamAlert · 2021-12-11 09:40

Alert !!!!!!!!!!! Look at his two most recent feedback the order date and date the feedback has been placed is the same dates. It's looking very fishy don't buy anything until Tor market admin confirm he's not scamming

EmpireNZ · 2021-12-11 11:10

We ship 2x per week not everyday you fucking retard stop causing FUD. Packs are starting to arrive nzpost has delays of upto a week at the moment.

EmpireNZ · 2021-12-11 11:20

Shop has been shut down until more orders start arriving. We ship all orders in drop boxes which causes an extra day or two delay in general

EmpireScamAlert · 2021-12-11 12:10

EmpireNZ wrote:

We ship 2x per week not everyday you fucking retard stop causing FUD. Packs are starting to arrive nzpost has delays of upto a week at the moment.

You have fake reviews on your feedback retard the two most recent where ordered today and reviewed today have a look. Out of the 90 plus orders you've had in the last 14 days how many people have fucking accepted them.

Be good to clear it up for everyone so they can confidently order from you.

Maybe you should enable escrow to help build your reputation if you legitimately have the product

thisperson · 2021-12-11 14:30

oh no is looking like exit scam I feel for everyone who has made an order, hopefully admin can get something back for them.

raptura · 2021-12-11 18:10

No po po me Hopo

kdt · 2021-12-11 20:30

I am waiting on an order from late November. It's a bit concerning it has not arrived. I'm going to give the vendor the benefit of the doubt for now given it's Christmas and postal services are swamped. Will update the thread when received.

Fingers crossed.

noname321 · 2021-12-12 19:20

Do you see they now on vacation and admin note

Admin notes
The last order date where delivery was confirmed was 2021-11-30. No orders after this have been received yet as of 11/12/2021. The delivery stats are based on the timestamp of when the buyer marked delivered. Orders that were marked delivered recently are actually old orders made prior to December. Some of the feedback is placed by the vendor - see timestamps of the feedbacks - ie fake orders.

2 more review that look fake too both from same person and too close to ordr date to be legit.

vendors should be have to have escrow always.

123chaser · 2021-12-13 11:40

i wouldnt be concerned if there wasnt fake feedback why would he place feedback then? there was no need to do that

axlexd · 2021-12-13 13:10

really hoping its not an exit, dont really want to fork out half of the order to my associate that goes half in my large with me right at christmas.. being so close to my own savings goal and new car after i got sold a dud beamer that blew up would really ruin my month even more

123chaser · 2021-12-13 20:20

some1 just left feedback on nzldd that was 12 days postage there could just be delays although it is slightly suspicious

Clicquot · 2021-12-13 21:20

Did anybody notice they dropped the price of charlie from 600 to 550 to 500.
6th I ordered from NZLDD and it arrived today. Ordered from Empire on the 7th.
43 unread conversations, no login today.
Potentially dozens of NYE party's ruined.
That's bad karma. Baaad juju.

noname321 · 2021-12-13 21:20

Yeh saw the price change. also they say to message today for traking number but then dont login.

EmpireScamAlert · 2021-12-13 23:00

Empire talks a big game... can they deliver the product or are they scrambling lying fucking cowards ripping a whole bunch of honest good cunts off. Time will tell

VanHoost3000 · 2021-12-13 23:30

I think give him the benefit of the doubt. He's got good feedback, and NZpost has been a lot slower these days. Also I've ordered from him a number of times and all has been well. My intuitions is that he's no scammer and he will come through, as per usual.

eshayyy · 2021-12-13 23:30

I believe a couple people on this forum know this guys address so will be good to see what the go is, someone will most likely go pay a visit if he scams. I think everyone here would like that also

TormarketSupport · 2021-12-14 12:20

Two of the latest orders are certainly fake, made 11/12/21 and there are three others 9/12/21 that appear to be fake also. Still no evidence of any deliveries in December sorry.

For those creating tickets asking for a refund, no-escrow means the vendor receives the money in 2hrs or less from when market receives it. The money only stays in market escrow if the state is "paid", before vendor accepts.

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ufbrbfriybfibyf · 2021-12-14 13:30

He hasn't been online for 2 days, wont answer any private messages. looks super sketchy

wish I knew this before ordering with him last week

first order on tor market, $1400 down the drain and no molly for summer

so pissed off....... escrow really should be compulsory for all orders. this is fucked

birdy01 · 2021-12-14 14:50

eshayyy wrote:

I believe a couple people on this forum know this guys address so will be good to see what the go is, someone will most likely go pay a visit if he scams. I think everyone here would like that also

Before people go breaking in doors remember it might not be that person. Accounts may have been hacked?

The guy suddenly appears back selling a full range of products at the cheapest prices non escrow. Anyone who's been around a while knows this is a red flag. Honestly I hope not but If it's to good to be true...

It sucks. You live and you learn.

KQ · 2021-12-14 16:10

seen this time and time again.

idk how anyone would know his login / PGP key details other than him.

nor do i see how people on this forum should know his identity / address.

thetrumanshow · 2021-12-14 17:50

https://www.stuff.co.nz/manawatu-standard/news/300477443/none-injured-as-freight-train-derails-south-of-hunterville

this is where all of our hard earned substances are

kdt · 2021-12-14 18:40

UPDATE: Order received.

123chaser · 2021-12-14 20:30

any updates? it seems people are receving orders from the 28th november now, which means it could be legit delays ? yea i know vendor is offline but he has stoped selling so that is something positive.

AD555 · 2021-12-15 10:50

Its the hope that gets you. Would makee my christmas if this turned out well......

Clicquot · 2021-12-15 12:40

Can someone let us know which company/courier is delivering our stuff?
Cheers

EmpireNZScam · 2021-12-15 13:40

I'm sorry to say but it looksl ike it would take a miracle for this not to be an exit scam at this stage. I stupidly ordered thousands of dollars of product, thinking a 2 year reputable vendor wouldn't be an issue. Just this fact alone is enough to solidify the scam because I am a very very unlucky person and was savings I had built up over some time - so it makes sense life would kick me to the curb again. In fact, it's probably somehow my fault he exited, so blame me.

No orders delivered, the guys is not online since false promises made about tracking number on monday, makes fake orders and comments. Gonna go kill myelf now cheers, too many people gonna be let down now for new years gg

exitscamempire · 2021-12-15 22:00

100% exit scam, 2.5 weeks since order, no comms, no tracking code. Its done guys hes gone.

TheDuke459 · 2021-12-15 22:50

For anyone who ordered, keep your tracking numbers. They can be used to identify the point of origin. And with enough numbers, a pattern should emerge. This will help narrow down the search a bit if said seller decides to try and run off with everyone's money. In any case, karma is guaranteed. I've seen it happen to so many people who tried to do the dirty on others. It inevitably comes back to bite them in the end.

lowermesoftly · 2021-12-16 03:10

TheDuke459 wrote:

For anyone who ordered, keep your tracking numbers. They can be used to identify the point of origin. And with enough numbers, a pattern should emerge. This will help narrow down the search a bit if said seller decides to try and run off with everyone's money. In any case, karma is guaranteed. I've seen it happen to so many people who tried to do the dirty on others. It inevitably comes back to bite them in the end.

Its over, those of us (me included) need to take the loss. There is a certain risk for a no escrow order and the warning signs were there. The best thing to do from this point would be only buying things escrow. If this dude trys to get back on the market the goods hes selling should hopefully expose him. Starting a witch hunt seems like a mess considering if his details become public he could be sprung, and he holds all our names and adresses.

raccooncable · 2021-12-16 11:10

lowermesoftly wrote:

TheDuke459 wrote:
For anyone who ordered, keep your tracking numbers. They can be used to identify the point of origin. And with enough numbers, a pattern should emerge. This will help narrow down the search a bit if said seller decides to try and run off with everyone's money. In any case, karma is guaranteed. I've seen it happen to so many people who tried to do the dirty on others. It inevitably comes back to bite them in the end.
Its over, those of us (me included) need to take the loss. There is a certain risk for a no escrow order and the warning signs were there. The best thing to do from this point would be only buying things escrow. If this dude trys to get back on the market the goods hes selling should hopefully expose him. Starting a witch hunt seems like a mess considering if his details become public he could be sprung, and he holds all our names and adresses.

I agree, no witch hunts please guys, we don't know what happened. He could have been hacked and you'd be going after an innocent person. Don't turn an exit scam into a crime drama.

ufbrbfriybfibyf · 2021-12-16 13:00

Stop having empathy for this clown, do what you have to do. if he had stayed online and replied to people the past few days I'd give him the benefit of the doubt. Scammed $1000s from people and went ghost

TheDuke459 · 2021-12-16 14:20

lowermesoftly wrote:

TheDuke459 wrote:
For anyone who ordered, keep your tracking numbers. They can be used to identify the point of origin. And with enough numbers, a pattern should emerge. This will help narrow down the search a bit if said seller decides to try and run off with everyone's money. In any case, karma is guaranteed. I've seen it happen to so many people who tried to do the dirty on others. It inevitably comes back to bite them in the end.
Its over, those of us (me included) need to take the loss. There is a certain risk for a no escrow order and the warning signs were there. The best thing to do from this point would be only buying things escrow. If this dude trys to get back on the market the goods hes selling should hopefully expose him. Starting a witch hunt seems like a mess considering if his details become public he could be sprung, and he holds all our names and adresses.

I think it's better to deal with it than walk away from it. The more you let people get away with scams and other dubious kinds of behavior, the more they'll feel like doing it and justifying it as "Well, you guys were all too stupid, that's why you fell for it. I gave you signs. You should have listened to the signs I gave! lol". But I don't buy that. I think the one who does that, thinking they can get away with it, is the stupid one. Not only will they have a guilty conscience, but people will hunt them and use questions, resources, contacts, and tools to find them. This wouldn't be the first time someone on the darknet has been hunted and found, either. If you have good contacts and skills, leverage them. I've never let anyone scam me before, and I have no intention of starting now.

Cooked · 2021-12-16 21:10

Hey All,

So I got scammed for over $1k from EmpireNZ as well. I could be wrong here but I have just spotted a new vendor listing (Vendor registered 7 days ago) and it reads like EmpireNZ. The vendors name is PlugHouse.

Maybe I am reading into it too much, but grammar/spelling looks very similar. Vendor only ships twice a week - Tuesday and Thursday, like EmpireNZ did. Coincidental?

Hopefully I am not tarnishing the reputation of PlugHouse if he is legit, I just wanted to make the post so people were aware and see what you all reckon?

lowermesoftly · 2021-12-17 06:00

Cooked wrote:

Hey All,
So I got scammed for over $1k from EmpireNZ as well. I could be wrong here but I have just spotted a new vendor listing (Vendor registered 7 days ago) and it reads like EmpireNZ. The vendors name is PlugHouse.
Maybe I am reading into it too much, but grammar/spelling looks very similar. Vendor only ships twice a week - Tuesday and Thursday, like EmpireNZ did. Coincidental?
Hopefully I am not tarnishing the reputation of PlugHouse if he is legit, I just wanted to make the post so people were aware and see what you all reckon?

Seems to have changed shipping times since you brought it up. But yeah gotta be careful not to incriminate a random person, slightly sus though

raccooncable · 2021-12-17 06:00

Cooked wrote:

Hey All,
So I got scammed for over $1k from EmpireNZ as well. I could be wrong here but I have just spotted a new vendor listing (Vendor registered 7 days ago) and it reads like EmpireNZ. The vendors name is PlugHouse.
Maybe I am reading into it too much, but grammar/spelling looks very similar. Vendor only ships twice a week - Tuesday and Thursday, like EmpireNZ did. Coincidental?
Hopefully I am not tarnishing the reputation of PlugHouse if he is legit, I just wanted to make the post so people were aware and see what you all reckon?

It appears that after you commented this, PlugHouse's profile was modified, it no longer says ships Tuesday and Thursday... That's definitely a bit strange... May just be a new vendor that's worried it looked bad but I'd be careful...

Last edited by raccooncable (2021-12-17 06:00)

EmpireScamAlert · 2021-12-17 08:30

Its him for sure

randolph · 2021-12-17 14:10

Don't give up hope just yet people - I got a delivery earlier this week, exactly 14 days after ordered. There's a lot of people giving negative feedback with orders less than 10 days old which is bit premature given the courier delays at the moment.

Empire's has been a reliable vendor for ages and it would be shame for him to the leave the market if he's not guilty of anything apart from some poor comms. If you bashed him in market feedback or in this thread please come back and update if/when your order arrives.

Charliebol · 2021-12-17 16:40

Hey Randolph was this order from empire? And if so what product was itand the date u ordered I orderd 6k worth of product from this guy hope it’s just delays

hdox · 2021-12-17 22:20

Bit odd of him not to reply to messages though, almost like he's gone and done a cheeky exit scam? You'd think if it was just "long shipping" he would be messaging everyone back trying to save his reputation. Before he decided to be a dumb cunt he had a top rating, now its gone to shit. He's done and we know it.

randolph · 2021-12-18 16:30

Coke. Ordered from Empire on 29/11 and received on 13/12

You can see in his feedback there are a few orders around that time that have been delivered. I suspect part of the extended delivery times is the delay between ordering and shipping.

Last edited by randolph (2021-12-18 16:30)

salah_lfc · 2021-12-18 18:50

Have you written feedback on the listing, Randolph? That would provide me and others some assurance and hope that it's still coming.

Cooked · 2021-12-18 19:20

randolph wrote:

Coke. Ordered from Empire on 29/11 and received on 13/12
You can see in his feedback there are a few orders around that time that have been delivered. I suspect part of the extended delivery times is the delay between ordering and shipping.

I still reckon the majority of us have been fucked over. It is typical for a vendor planning to exit scam to actually send a few orders before they start the scam so they have recent feedback and it can cause confusion when the customers start to think it may be a scam.

I hope the coke is good qual at least? The prices were outrageous, you could feed a large African family for a year with the price of EmpireNZ coke.

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