#1 2021-11-17 22:20

puzzlethese
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Posts: 1

vaccine passports

Hey any links for location to buy vaccine passports for nz?

#2 2021-11-18 11:00

Xar777
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Registered: 2019-04-30
Posts: 122

Re: vaccine passports

Haha FFS this request was only a matter of time..

The passport has a QR code with your vaccine data encoded and is cryptographically signed by the ministry of health. When someone scans that code with the covid app it will verify that signature against the ministries public key. This makes it next to impossible to generate a fake QR code without access to the governments encryption keys. Your best bet would be to "borrow" someone's passport but then there is a thing saying "ID may be required", so that's probably to mitigate this risk I guess.

Save yourself the hassle and just get the vaccine... I can guarantee you stick far worse stuff in your body on a regular basis, a tiny bit of mRNA is not going to mess you up.

FYI if your interested in the technical aspect of the pass it's all up in the public domain: https://github.com/minhealthnz/nzcovidpass-spec

#3 2021-11-18 20:20

NZDrugEmporium
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Registered: 2020-11-29
Posts: 27

Re: vaccine passports

Hi there,

We are a vendor who believes that bodily autonomy is sacrosanct and any attempts to undermine this right either forcefully or coercively are outright violations of human rights.

We firmly believe anyone must willingly consent to medical intervention as per the bill of rights.

In saying that, we have something in the works to undermine this system as, thankfully, developers in New Zealand tend to be overconfident in their abilities. More information on this should hopefully come shortly.

Just know there is a lot of work going on behind the scenes.

We do not turn away customers based on a persons health status, vaccination status, or the color of their skin.

Last edited by NZDrugEmporium (2021-11-18 20:20)

#4 2021-11-18 20:50

TheAuditor
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Registered: 2020-04-05
Posts: 14

Re: vaccine passports

NZDrugEmporium wrote:

Hi there,

We are a vendor who believes that bodily autonomy is sacrosanct and any attempts to undermine this right either forcefully or coercively are outright violations of human rights.

We firmly believe anyone must willingly consent to medical intervention as per the bill of rights.

In saying that, we have something in the works to undermine this system as, thankfully, developers in New Zealand tend to be overconfident in their abilities. More information on this should hopefully come shortly.

Just know there is a lot of work going on behind the scenes.

We do not turn away customers based on a persons health status, vaccination status, or the color of their skin.

This is the way

#5 2021-11-18 21:30

Smontal
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Registered: 2021-08-29
Posts: 11

Re: vaccine passports

FarmerJohn wrote:

You retards are going to get us featured on Newshub and Stuff and put a shitload of heat on the market over the stupidest thing imaginable.

Agreed, this is a drug market forum. The last this we need is any extra dumbass media attention. You know that they'll be froathing to find a local fake vaccine distributor to expost how supposedly 'easy' it would be. My stance on this is purley on the point of this site and the need to not create new avenues of attention towards this site or tormarket.

#6 2021-11-18 21:40

NZDrugEmporium
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Re: vaccine passports

Technically this would not be allowed to be sold on the market. My point was to explain the current situation. I would love to see newshub equate a "fake vaxx pass" as worse than, say Meth - I'm sure they will find a way.

Last edited by NZDrugEmporium (2021-11-18 21:40)

#7 2021-11-18 21:50

Smontal
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Re: vaccine passports

I'm sure they could find a way to make it seem like drug users are all anti vax as well. It wouldn't be beneth newshub.

#8 2021-11-18 22:50

mastodon
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Registered: 2021-09-17
Posts: 6

Re: vaccine passports

Just get the vaccine ya cunts wink. If not for yourself, others around you that may get sick from your infection.

Much faster to get the vax than acquiring fake passes, holding ridiculous car protests etc

Be a gc.

#9 2021-11-19 12:20

raccooncable
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Registered: 2019-11-20
Posts: 74

Re: vaccine passports

I'm all for body autonomy even tho I'm pro vaxx, but take it somewhere else, make a seperate fraud market or something. Would hate to see TOR market fall for such a stupid reason. Like others have said it would put a shitload of heat on the market.

#10 2021-12-01 10:20

NZDNM
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Registered: 2021-09-19
Posts: 10

Re: vaccine passports

Authorities are aware of the threat and the GCSB are no joke
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/covid-19-coronavirus-fake-test-results-vaccine-passports-easily-available-on-dark-web/J7MC3HPUHLPZ5T2NNPMGZXS7NY/

That said, if you have some kind of solution to these vaccine passes and can do business off Tor Market I'm interested.

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#11 2021-12-01 18:20

NZDMFmod
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Re: vaccine passports

I guess the guy in the Herald article is referring to this thread/topic.

#12 2021-12-02 08:50

NZDNM
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Posts: 10

Re: vaccine passports

Well, the article is from March so I wouldn't think so.

#13 2021-12-11 18:40

NZDMFmod
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Re: vaccine passports

The unintended consequences of overbearing government mandates - people are offering services to be your substitute at the vaccine clinic. Someone has received 10 vaccines in one day. For five customers I assume.
Suppose a nurse is loosing their job and income of $1000 / week , then it makes sense to pay a homeless person $2000 to go get a shot on your behalf.

#14 2021-12-21 21:50

Sorrycrow
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Re: vaccine passports

Also after one myself if anyone has a link, ta.

#15 2021-12-21 22:40

lowermesoftly
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Posts: 38

Re: vaccine passports

You can actually get those for free, just get the vaccine

#16 2021-12-29 01:50

cLOozvM3U
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Posts: 10

Re: vaccine passports

lowermesoftly wrote:

You can actually get those for free, just get the vaccine

for free... yet so many have already paid for it with their lives or health...

History never repeats... it rhymes

during Nazi Germany:
First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out — Because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out —  Because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out — Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me

in the near future:
First they came for those who refused the first vaccine, and I did not speak out — Because I took the first one.
Then they came for those who refused the booster shots, and I did not speak out —  Because I took mine.
Then they came for those who refused the Omicron booster shot, and I did not speak out — Because I had all Covid shots, all Delta-variant shots and Omicron vaccines and booster shots.
Then I finally woke up, after burying so many of my friends and family... so I stood my ground and said "NO" to a "new shot every month"... so...
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me

If it's free, you're probably the product

#17 2021-12-29 21:40

HomeGrownBudz
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Posts: 47

Re: vaccine passports

cLOozvM3U wrote:
lowermesoftly wrote:

You can actually get those for free, just get the vaccine

for free... yet so many have already paid for it with their lives or health...

History never repeats... it rhymes

during Nazi Germany:
First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out — Because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out —  Because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out — Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me

in the near future:
First they came for those who refused the first vaccine, and I did not speak out — Because I took the first one.
Then they came for those who refused the booster shots, and I did not speak out —  Because I took mine.
Then they came for those who refused the Omicron booster shot, and I did not speak out — Because I had all Covid shots, all Delta-variant shots and Omicron vaccines and booster shots.
Then I finally woke up, after burying so many of my friends and family... so I stood my ground and said "NO" to a "new shot every month"... so...
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me

If it's free, you're probably the product


Fuck off already with this conspiracy theorist bullshit.  Relating a vaccine that saves lives to nazi germany is about as low as you can get.  You should get off the drugs if that's how your brain is working.

#18 2021-12-30 03:30

cLOozvM3U
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Re: vaccine passports

HomeGrownBudz wrote:

Fuck off already with this conspiracy theorist bullshit.  Relating a vaccine that saves lives to nazi germany is about as low as you can get.  You should get off the drugs if that's how your brain is working.

Alright, let's assume what I say is all nonsense...

Do you own your own body?
Do you get to choose what you put in it? (whether it's drugs, cigarettes, alcohol, meat, a dick, or a vaccine... shouldn't it be your choice?)

Besides... if your vaccine works... then why do I have to get one? If YOUR vaccine doesn't keep you safe, then MY vaccine won't keep YOU safe!
If your mask works... then why do I have to wear one? If YOUR mask doesn't keep you safe, then MY mask won't keep YOU safe!
If your seat belt works... then why do I have to wear one? If YOUR seat belt doesn't keep you safe, then MY seat belt won't keep YOU safe!

So, either the vaccine is safe and effective, in which case it doesn't matter if other people get it or not, because you are safe with your jab!
Or... the vaccine is not safe nor effective, in which case it also doesn't matter if other people get it or not.

Your body, your choice!
My body, my choice!

So choose whatever you want! But don't impose your choice onto others!

Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety

#19 2021-12-30 16:40

PsychedNZ
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Re: vaccine passports

cLOozvM3U wrote:

Besides... if your vaccine works... then why do I have to get one? If YOUR vaccine doesn't keep you safe, then MY vaccine won't keep YOU safe!

The vaccine reduces the viruses effects and the viral load you can pass on. What this means is the more people vaccinated, the harder it is for the virus to transmit between people, and the less damage it does to those infected.

Catching covid from a vaccinated person has far less potential to do long-lasting damage, compared to an unvaccinated person. This is why there is a massive push to get as many people vaccinated as possible. To save lives.

cLOozvM3U wrote:

If your mask works... then why do I have to wear one? If YOUR mask doesn't keep you safe, then MY mask won't keep YOU safe!

Mask efficacy is well documented, and the least chance of transmission is when everyone wears a mask. It's not even something I'd consider I need evidence for, just use your brain a fraction.

cLOozvM3U wrote:

If your seat belt works... then why do I have to wear one? If YOUR seat belt doesn't keep you safe, then MY seat belt won't keep YOU safe!

Seatbelts aren't comparable to vaccines (see point about vaccine effectiveness below). Also, seatbelts are required to be worn by law to keep people safe, but you don't seem to have a problem with that?

cLOozvM3U wrote:

So, either the vaccine is safe and effective, in which case it doesn't matter if other people get it or not, because you are safe with your jab!
Or... the vaccine is not safe nor effective, in which case it also doesn't matter if other people get it or not.

So again... The vaccines effectiveness is much greater when everyone is vaccinated. If you're unvaccinated and catch covid, you will have a much higher viral load than if you were vaccinated. Your body will have a much harder time fighting it off, and it will be much more transmissable to people around you.

Your decision to take the vaccine is your own, but remember that your actions (and inactions) have consequences. Freedom of speech does not mean freedom to not be critisised and condemned. Your opinion is selfish and uninformed, spreading fear and misinformation. We dont want you here. Not on this forum, not in this country.

#20 2021-12-30 19:50

HomeGrownBudz
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Re: vaccine passports

I'm not engaging with some facebook conspiracy fuck tard beyond saying no one is forcing you to do shit. 

However if you want to take part in businesses that use the passport then you will need a vaccine. 

That choice is on you, stop fucking whinging about it.

#21 2021-12-31 14:10

cLOozvM3U
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Posts: 10

Re: vaccine passports

PsychedNZ wrote:

The vaccine reduces the viruses effects and the viral load you can pass on. What this means is the more people vaccinated, the harder it is for the virus to transmit between people, and the less damage it does to those infected.

seems like you are good at repeating the unscientific BS you hear on the news...

PsychedNZ wrote:

Mask efficacy is well documented, and the least chance of transmission is when everyone wears a mask. It's not even something I'd consider I need evidence for, just use your brain a fraction.

"well documented"? By who? Professional lairs and actors on TV? or real scientists?
@PsychedNZ what is the size of the covid particles? Compared to the fiber-mesh of your mask?
Stopping covid with a mask is the same as stopping marbles with a scaffolding! Sure, if you throw marbles at a scaffold, some marbles may accidentally hit a beam and bounce off, but most just pass right through.

On the other hand: wearing your mask longer than 20 minutes is dangerous! Bacterial buildup, lack of oxygen, buildup of CO2. If you wear a mask, and you care about your health: replace your mask every 20 minutes.

Talking about

PsychedNZ wrote:

It's not even something I'd consider I need evidence for, just use your brain a fraction.

yeah... lack of oxygen is bad for your brain...
but it's clear you haven't looked at any evidence, you just accept whatever the actors on tv tell you to believe.

PsychedNZ wrote:

Seatbelts aren't comparable to vaccines (see point about vaccine effectiveness below). Also, seatbelts are required to be worn by law to keep people safe, but you don't seem to have a problem with that?

you are right, seatbelts are not comparable to vaccines as seatbelts are not that harmful to the user (and that is why I use them to keep the cops off my back).
But the point of comparing seatbelt is: if your seatbelt keeps you safe (and it does), then why do I have to wear one? As MY seatbelt won't keep YOU safe.
You want the vaccine? Go for it! But don't tell me I will kill someone if I don't get the vaccine, as that is total nonsense!

PsychedNZ wrote:

So again... The vaccines effectiveness is much greater when everyone is vaccinated.

who told you that nonsence?
How do you know that's true? Are you a scientist? Have you looked into science?
If you have no clue... why would you want to repeat what you hear on TV?

PsychedNZ wrote:

If you're unvaccinated and catch covid, you will have a much higher viral load than if you were vaccinated. Your body will have a much harder time fighting it off, and it will be much more transmissable to people around you.

Again... how do you know? Do you have scientific proof for such claims? Sure, you will find plenty of newspaper articles "proving" your case, but you won't find any scientific proof!
[img=Science News Cycle]https://phdcomics.com/comics/archive/phd051809s.gif[/img]
Science News Cycle

PsychedNZ wrote:

Your decision to take the vaccine is your own, but remember that your actions (and inactions) have consequences.

Thank you :-D same applies to you :-)

PsychedNZ wrote:

Your opinion is selfish and uninformed,

Truth Passes Through Three Stages:
First, It Is Ridiculed.
Second, It Is Violently Opposed.
Third, It Is Accepted As Self-Evident

I'm guessing you're in the first stage... bordering onto the second.

PsychedNZ wrote:

spreading fear and misinformation.

I'm not the one making you afraid of a 'mostly' harmless virus...
We don't need a vaccine to fight Covid... we need an immune-booster!

PsychedNZ wrote:

We dont want you here. Not on this forum, not in this country.

Don't worry, I am isolating myself from the vaccinated so you won't have anything to worry about from me.

Why do I isolate myself from the vaccinated? Because of shedding.
Whenever I come close to vaccinated people, I get headaches and painful eyes. And when I stay longer among them, also blurry vision and loss of comprehension of even simple words.

For those of you who don't now what shedding is:
- simply put, the covid19 virus is a globe with the virus-RNA on the inside and spikes (spike proteins) on the outside.
- those spike proteins is what makes people sick
- the vaccine inoculation turns the body into sprike protein manufacturers
- these spike proteins travel inside your body, but also get shedded through breathing, skin contact, sweat, etc.

Now the fact-checkers will tell you:

FactChecker wrote:

"Individuals vaccinated against COVID-19 can shed viral components that are capable of infecting and harming those around them. => is False"

Did see what the fact-checkers did? Clever isn't it!
Of course the vaccinated can NOT shed the viral components! They only shed the spike proteins!
You see how they deceive you?

So @PsychedNZ, don't worry, I will stay well away from you!

@PsychedNZ you know what I find strange, you are here on the darknet market forums because the government doesn't allow you to buy/sell what you want on the regular market, yet when the government tells you "a story", you just believe them?

But I get it.. not everyone is a scientist, so it's hard to tell fiction from truth.

@HomeGrownBudz, I deleted my facebook many many years ago!

@HomeGrownBudz, @PsychedNZ, I'm not your enemy. Those who you give your sovereignty to are.
We can even help each other;
- in the short term you can sell produces to us (at premium), for when vaccine passports are needed for buying essential things like food
- in the long term we can sell you natural cures to detoxify your body from the spike proteins and the other (untested) shit that's in the vaccine.

Here a freebee, take extra:
- Vitamin C
- Vitamin D
- zinc
- freshly home made pine needle tea

Anyway...
How many people do you know who got covid and died?
How many people do you know who got the vaccine and died? Or worse, injured for life

Seems like:
Covid is making the old, weak, and immune-compromised sick, and kills those with multiple co-morbidities...
while the vaccine is killing the young and healthy, all that to save the old, sick and weak...
??? "let's kill our babies to save granny" ???

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#22 2021-12-31 15:20

PsychedNZ
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Registered: 2021-12-30
Posts: 2

Re: vaccine passports

cLOozvM3U wrote:

How many people do you know who got covid and died?
How many people do you know who got the vaccine and died? Or worse, injured for life

This is interesting, can you provide a source showing the vaccine is a bigger threat to health than Covid-19? I would love to read a scientific study on this. There must be something concrete, rooted in science, that supports this?

I know too many people that caught covid and died (UK), from before the vaccine was available. Thankfully, no one I know who has been vaccinated had any problems. Gotta love modern medicine. (Well, I guess you don't, but that's your loss)

#23 2021-12-31 16:00

fr00tl00p
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Registered: 2021-12-31
Posts: 1

Re: vaccine passports

cLOozvM3U wrote:

How many people do you know who got covid and died?
How many people do you know who got the vaccine and died? Or worse, injured for life

I know 3ppl who got covid, were sick for 3-5 days, and are fine now.
I also know 3 ppl who got jabbed: the mom of my friend here in Chch died, a 41yo healthy guy has hearth problems now and a woman who was sic for a week and described it as "worse than her chemo therapy"

#24 2022-01-01 18:00

cLOozvM3U
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Registered: 2021-12-29
Posts: 10

Re: vaccine passports

PsychedNZ wrote:

I know too many people that caught covid and died (UK), from before the vaccine was available. Thankfully, no one I know who has been vaccinated had any problems.

I'm sorry for your loss PsychedNZ.

Just out of curiosity... how do you know those people you know died from Covid? Sure, the doctors may have told you it was Covid... but how do the doctors know?
I mean... the inventor of the PCR test said his test can not be used to detect viruses (any viruses).

I'm sorry for your loss. Any death is one too many. But blaming covid... because "a test not testing for covid" said so?

With the vaccine it's easy: you either had the jab or you didn't. With covid we can't know. Did they really have Covid19? or did they have one of the many other corona-type viruses (like the flue and others)? Or something else?

Happy New Year btw, I wish everyone  good health and happiness.

#25 2022-01-04 04:00

yeayo
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Registered: 2021-09-24
Posts: 25

Re: vaccine passports

options:
a) during a time when legal issues surrounding bodily sanctity (which includes both the right to take or not take a medicine) are under threat by prohibition of drugs taking an outspoken anti-vax stance is justified, while otherwise one perhaps wouldn't make such a big deal of the vaccine policies as taking the vaccine could potentially help the community
b) during a time when legal issues surrounding bodily sanctity (which includes both the right to take or not take a medicine) are under threat by prohibition of drugs complaining about forced vaccines is a bit trivial, like ignoring the elephant in the room

personally i'm option a

it is likely for people in NZ to hold up section 11 of the bill of rights act
https://legislation.govt.nz/act/public/1990/0109/latest/DLM224792.html
Right to refuse to undergo medical treatment

this section is ignored by the mental health compulsory treatment and assessment act part 5 https://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/public/1992/0046/latest/DLM262176.html
as psych patients may be forced to take psychiatric medications eg typically a psych patient may be being forced to take medication under section 59 https://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/public/1992/0046/latest/DLM263449.html
so apparently the Bill of Rights is not binding

Last edited by yeayo (2022-01-04 05:00)

#26 2022-01-05 20:10

TheAuditor
Member
Registered: 2020-04-05
Posts: 14

Re: vaccine passports

Safe as houses. Just a lot of males that are getting Myocarditis after getting their two-shots-for-summer, whom are otherwise at low-risk of being negatively impacted by COVID-19 infection. Zucchini Wiles says its all good though.

#27 2022-01-06 16:50

cLOozvM3U
Member
Registered: 2021-12-29
Posts: 10

Re: vaccine passports

PsychedNZ wrote:

This is interesting, can you provide a source showing the vaccine is a bigger threat to health than Covid-19? I would love to read a scientific study on this. There must be something concrete, rooted in science, that supports this?

I wasn't going to spend any time on this, especially since

PsychedNZ wrote:

We dont want you here. Not on this forum, not in this country.

But since I stumbled upon this... here we go:
"German Analysis: The Higher the Vaccination Rate, the Higher the Excess Mortality" https://www.skirsch.com/covid/GermanAnalysis.pdf

And, I wouldn't call this a real scientific study study as it is more scientists talking about scientific studies, but I'm sure you will be able to find the sources they refer to if you want to: "On COVID vaccines: why they cannot work, and irrefutable evidence of their causative role in deaths after vaccination" https://doctors4covidethics.org/wp-cont … -covax.pdf

Some other stuff I stumbled upon:
- Life insurance company says death claims up 40% after covid vaccines https://www.thecentersquare.com/indiana … 25e2c.html

- Life insurance companies sound DEATH ALERT warnings over nearly 100,000 excess deaths per month happening right now in the USA https://naturalnews.com/2022-01-03-life … covid.html

- Vaccine DAMAGE now ubiquitous in Denmark as “Omicron” hospitalizations occur primarily in “fully vaccinated” https://igorchudov.substack.com/p/denma … ective-vax

- Study: Vaccines don’t stop covid outbreaks (and actually cause more of them) https://www.realscience.news/2022-01-05 … -them.html

- More than three-quarters of covid deaths in Vermont are among the “fully vaccinated” https://naturalnews.com/2021-10-05-thre … nated.html

- Study: Most of Vaccinated Die Because of Vax-induced Autoimmune Attacks on Their Own Organs https://thenewamerican.com/study-most-o … wn-organs/
=> see https://doctors4covidethics.org/wp-cont … -covax.pdf

- A List of World Class Athletes Who Died Or Suffered Severe Injuries After COVID-19 Vaccine https://thecovidworld.com/world-class-a … 9-vaccine/

- GLOBAL ALERT: An estimated 10 million people PER DAY are set on irreversible countdown to vaccine death that could exterminate BILLIONS if not stopped in the next year https://naturalnews.com/2022-01-04-10-m … death.html

- Vaccine ‘dramatically’ increases heart risk, says new study https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/vac … new-study/

Anyway... I'm not trying to convince anyone to take or not take anything, that's everyone's free choice. All I'm trying to do is point out the obvious: the unvaxed are not your enemy! We have a common enemy. An enemy you can recognize by it being a wolf wearing sheep's clothing. They use words like "unite against Covid" to separate us, to divide us and concur us. Trojan had their horse, we have the vaccine. Nazi Germany had their dissidents and the Jews, we have the non-complaints and the unvaxed. History doesn't repeat itself but it rhymes. And those who don't study history are doomed to repeat it.

HomeGrownBudz wrote:

Fuck off already with this conspiracy theorist bullshit.  Relating a vaccine that saves lives to nazi germany is about as low as you can get.

My granddad survived the concentration camps... if he hadn't... then I wouldn't be here. So maybe it's easier for me to recognize the similarities...


Q: What's the difference between a conspiracy theory and reality?
A: About six months.
But since NZ is about 6-12 months behind the rest of the world...
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#28 2022-01-06 20:00

TheAuditor
Member
Registered: 2020-04-05
Posts: 14

Re: vaccine passports

Amazing how libertarian people are on the DNM's except when it comes to someones choice as to whether they take the vaccine or not, then they go full authoritarian. u FuCkIn' IdIoT tRuSt ThE sCiEnCe.

#29 2022-01-07 09:40

cLOozvM3U
Member
Registered: 2021-12-29
Posts: 10

Re: vaccine passports

TheAuditor wrote:

Amazing how libertarian people are on the DNM's except when it comes to someones choice as to whether they take the vaccine or not, then they go full authoritarian. u FuCkIn' IdIoT tRuSt ThE sCiEnCe.

Some call it cognitive dissonance...

The term cognitive dissonance is used to describe the mental discomfort that results from holding two conflicting beliefs, values, or attitudes. People tend to seek consistency in their attitudes and perceptions, so this conflict causes feelings of unease or discomfort.

Cognitive dissonance is a mental conflict that occurs when your beliefs don't line up with your actions. It's an uncomfortable state of mind when someone has contradictory values, attitudes, or perspectives about the same thing.

others call it being hypocritical


Anyway... earlier this morning when I turned on my computer this link popped up out of nowhere... @PsychedNZ another one for you: https://normanpilon.files.wordpress.com … ent_v2.pdf

Conclusions
Accurate estimates of COVID vaccine-induced death rate is critical for risk-benefit ratio
analyses of vaccination against COVID as a function of age. In this study, we analyzed region
to region variation in vaccination and mortality data over time from two publicly available sets
of data from Europe and the US. We find that COVID vaccination rates predict higher mortality
0-5 weeks from vaccination, before associating with lower mortality 6-20 weeks from
vaccination.
The US data allowed us to estimate age-stratified fatality rates within 1 month
post-vaccination. The model-fitted regression slopes were used to estimate that between
130K-180K US deaths can be attributed to vaccination
between February and August of 2021.
Importantly, this approach does not rely on the Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting System
(VAERS) and its associated limitations. Our estimates align with independent estimates based
on VAERS and credible assumptions about its underreporting bias. Comparing our results with
the CDC reported vaccine-induced death rate (0.002%) suggests vaccine-induced deaths are
underreported by at least a factor of 20.

To help give a real-world sense of the risks and impact of COVID vaccines, readers are
encouraged to browse through some of the testimonials on c19vaxreactions.com and
nomoresilence.world, two websites dedicated to giving voice to those injured by COVID
vaccines. Readers are also encouraged to read the thousands of solicited comments
submitted to the public FDA advisory committee meeting held on Oct 26th, 2021 to discuss
approval of the COVID vaccines for children ages 5-11 at
https://www.regulations.gov/document/FD … -1088-0001. Perusing through over 250K
comments left on a Facebook post by WXYZ-TV Channel 7 is also illuminating. The post
asked people who had lost an unvaccinated loved one to COVID to contact them for a story,
but instead received tens, if not hundreds, of thousands of stories of vaccine injuries or deaths
instead.
The post is telling of how injured patients, or those who have lost friends or family to
vaccine-induced death, are often ignored by the same major news outlets that encouraged
them to be vaccinated. This is understandable, as no one, especially those with good
intentions and high hopes but who were misled by less-than-rigorous science, wants to
acknowledge the possibility that the COVID vaccines and their boosters may be causing more
harm than good overall. The sooner the taboo surrounding research and discussion of
vaccine-induced injury and death is lifted, the sooner public health policy can be adjusted and
resources can be mobilized to identify and develop therapies and interventions.

I can't open the first link in a TorBrowser, but it does work in a normal browser. (same for the gov website)
I don't have facebook so I can't check that link.
The second link also lists 8 stories from NZ: https://nomoresilence.world/series/new-zealand/. I don't have a TV, nor do I follow the 'main stream media news'. Those that do: have you heard about these 8 New Zealanders? 7 (severe) aderse reactions and one death?

They say: "those that don't follow the news are uninformed, those that do follow the news are mis-informed".
When I do have time to "watch the news", I like to watch David Knight at double speed to not loose too much time.

#30 2022-01-07 11:50

PredatorLabs
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Re: vaccine passports

TheAuditor wrote:

Amazing how libertarian people are on the DNM's except when it comes to someones choice as to whether they take the vaccine or not, then they go full authoritarian. u FuCkIn' IdIoT tRuSt ThE sCiEnCe.

"Why yes, of course I should be able to grow and smoke my own 'homegrownbudz'. It's my body, my choice!"

"Why yes, of course the government should be able to tell you to take any medication against a virus which is 99.7% of the time non-lethal!  It's just common sense and basic science!"

Dude it is a fucking trip and gives me some serious doubts about this country.

#31 2022-01-07 11:50

PredatorLabs
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It's so funny how the government handled this too. Let everybody sit indoors away from work not allowed to go to the gym, getting fatter and lazier when we have known for most of 2 years that this disease kills fat inactive people.

And it's such a dangerous health crisis that we are firing critical healthcare workers. Not cops, though. Jacinda wouldn't want to have less guards as she loses popularity.

#32 2022-01-07 12:00

Xar777
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Registered: 2019-04-30
Posts: 122

Re: vaccine passports

seems the hardcore anti-vaxx crusaders are out in force this festive season!

curious though, if you do happen to catch covid and end up in hospital will you refuse all other medical treatments too? even in the face of death? where do you draw the line with what science to "believe" and what science to "reject"?

#33 2022-01-07 12:50

PredatorLabs
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Re: vaccine passports

Dude I literally sell medicines.

#34 2022-01-07 16:30

bside30
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Registered: 2021-10-11
Posts: 19

Re: vaccine passports

LOL, y'all need to chill OP asked for a fake hall pass hook up, no need to have a tedtalk fucking debate to randoms on the internet.

#35 2022-01-07 16:40

cLOozvM3U
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Posts: 10

Re: vaccine passports

Xar777 wrote:

seems the hardcore anti-vaxx crusaders are out in force this festive season!

If you're referring to me: I'm not anti-vaxx, I'm pro freedom of choice!

Xar777 wrote:

curious though, if you do happen to catch covid

Then highly likely I won't feel a thing due to a healthy immune system. Worst case I'm sick in bed for less than a week.
Curiously though.. what are you so afraid of Xar777?

Xar777 wrote:

and end up in hospital will you refuse all other medical treatments too? even in the face of death?

Oh my! What are you so afraid of???
If I ever catch Covid (and I hope I do, especially the Omicron variant), then I'll build up natural immunity against all other covid variants and I'm done with it. While everyone who took the vaccine inoculation has lowered their immune system, making them more susceptible for every variant of Covid.

Have you ever wondered "why" you need a booster shot?

[bad joke] I won't go to the hospital to reserve my spot for your myocarditis, pericarditis, stroke, brain damage, heart attack, Guillain-Barré syndrome (GBS), thrombosis with thrombocytopenia syndrome (TTS) or some other long term effect they haven't found yet with this experimental injection. [/bad joke]

Xar777 wrote:

where do you draw the line with what science to "believe" and what science to "reject"?

The truth doesn't care whether you believe it or not. The truth is always right!
Religion on the other hand, or scientism, or religion (especially politicians) they need "believers" (politicians call them "voters" :-p)

But seriously @Xar777... what fear-porn have you been watching?

bside30 wrote:

no need to have a tedtalk fucking debate to randoms on the internet.

Oh... can't we have some fun :-D

#36 2022-01-07 19:20

Xar777
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Registered: 2019-04-30
Posts: 122

Re: vaccine passports

*** keeps feeding the trolls ***

Your risk of myocarditis is significantly higher if you catch covid, same with stroke and brain damage and your "healthy immune system" wont save you from the next Ebola tuff guy. Also you know that you can already get other vaccines that are not mRNA based if that's what your actually afraid of and you claim to not be an anti-vaxx so there is plenty of "freedom of choice" there.

Yeah this thread is a fucking shit show, apologies... I will stop now, time to get blazed.

#37 2022-01-07 21:50

Cooked
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Registered: 2021-12-16
Posts: 254

Re: vaccine passports

When Covid first started to fuck with the world I was hoping a vaccine would be brought out ASAP so we could get rid of the lockdowns and all the bullshit that goes along with it. Since then, I have changed my mind after reading what I believe to be true about the Covid vaccine(s). That aside, I have a questions for all of the haters against us so called "anti-vaxxers":

1 - If you are vaccinated how does it affect you whether myself and a small minority do not get vaccinated because we choose not too? The amount of hate and retarded propaganda thrown at us so called "anti-vaxxers" is ridiculous.

2 - Almost all new medicines/vaccines and so on require up to 10+ years of testing before they are released to the general public for use. The Covid vaccines however have not. Fair enough, I can see why due to the current state of the world. But does that not worry you at all?

3 - How many booster shots/year will it take for you to get sick of the vaccine and start to push back? Would you willingly take a booster shot each month indefinitely?

At the end of the day whether the vaccine is legitimate or not it will not work because humanity is just chasing its tail as the virus constantly mutates. It is probably just Mother Earths way of culling off some humans because of the way we are fucking up the Earth. I just hope it is the low IQ ones that end up getting culled.

Last edited by Cooked (2022-01-08 00:10)

#38 2022-01-08 00:00

cLOozvM3U
Member
Registered: 2021-12-29
Posts: 10

Re: vaccine passports

Xar777 wrote:

Your risk of myocarditis is significantly higher if you catch covid, same with stroke and brain damage and your "healthy immune system" wont save you from the next Ebola tuff guy.

Do you have links to scientific data to support those claims?

Xar777 wrote:

Also you know that you can already get other vaccines that are not mRNA based if that's what your actually afraid of

I'm not afraid. I'm not afraid of covid. In fact, I want covid, so I can get a natural immunity, like... you know... nature intended. Why would I want to take something to prevent getting natural super-immunity?

Xar777 wrote:

and you claim to not be an anti-vaxx so there is plenty of "freedom of choice" there.

... plenty of "freedom of choice" ... until they mandate it...
Will you defend my freedom to not get the jab just as I defend your freedom to get your shot? Or as I defend your freedom to get whatever you desire on this market forum?

Cooked wrote:

Since then, I have changed my mind after reading what I believe to be true about the Covid vaccine(s).

Yeah, I think everyone who is 'so called' labeled as "anti-vax" went through a similar process.
I remember back in December 2019, being the only one to walk around with a mask in town, at the supermarkets, etc. while people were looking weird at me. And then again 3 months later those same people looked weird at me as I was one not wearing my mask.

Great questions @Cooked

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