#1 2022-02-09 19:30

Nightraid
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Countries that have a higher chance of being seized?

Has anyone had more luck ordering from certain countries, I have been ordering from netherlands with a 100% success rate so far. Though I assume it may be more alerting when coming through customs?

Last edited by Nightraid (2022-02-09 19:30)

#2 2022-02-16 22:10

HarvestSnaps2
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Re: Countries that have a higher chance of being seized?

0/2 received from NL

#3 2022-02-19 20:20

3rdplateau
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Re: Countries that have a higher chance of being seized?

NL !
cocaine producing states
Colombia
Peru
Bolivia
Then places like
Curacao
In the Carribean where the shipment goes out from

I wish NL had proxy countries for shipping -  A lot of Chinese RC vendors have places on the ground in US. maybe not worth the effort and too easy for them with a lot of demand being within the EU itself so easy game.

Can't wait to visit, get out of the south pacific


Weirdly back in the day had mad success with the czech republic then they dissapeared

#4 2022-02-20 19:00

HarvestSnaps2
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Re: Countries that have a higher chance of being seized?

i am confused by the random countries listed.is it order of countries from hardest two import from?

what does chinese rc mean

chur

#5 2022-02-22 00:20

3rdplateau
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Re: Countries that have a higher chance of being seized?

don't have sources just what I've read about seizures, the postal service, and the darknet markets

NL is pretty notorious for it's seizures. Look at the darknet markets vendors on different markets, see how much is from NL.

The south american countries produce the most Coke in the world.

I've read a lot of it is shipped via the carribean

I wouldn't order from them because of the notoriety

RC stands for research chemical, typically analogs of illegal chemicals - see methoxetamine. Or chemicals that are produced to target the same receptors that an illegal drug would see AB-FUBINACA, or sometimes chemicals that were discovered and synthesized in the past and didn't make it to market like Clonazolam.  A lot are produced from China. (a lot less since the crackdown on Fentanyl, Dissociative Anaesthetics and cannibinoids).

Recently I've seen some of the Chinese RC vendors having a base in the US to ship from as the RC market in China is cracked down upon by govt

#6 2022-02-25 06:50

3rdplateau
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Re: Countries that have a higher chance of being seized?

Randomly saw this entry on the topic in the DNM Bible

Origin Countries

The first rule is: stick to domestic whenever possible. Mail that does not cross any country border will get far less checked than all other mail. This reduces the risk of you not getting your package or even getting in legal trouble.

However one disadvantage is that the prices can be a bit higher compared to other listings from vendors that ship not from your country. You have to decide for yourself if you want to take the higher risk and pay a bit less or if you want to play it safe and pay a bit more.

If you buy for the first time or for one of the first times, it is best to stick to domestic even if you have to pay a bit more. Many new users worry too much during their first orders (e.g. get paranoid) or even make mistakes. In order to get yourself some peace of mind you should stick to domestic because it generally means a higher success chance.
“Hot” Origin Countries

If you order international, it is strongly discouraged to order from the following “hot countries” because mail coming from these countries will usually get checked extensively.

    The Netherlands (NL) - notorious origin country for all drugs
    Colombia (CO) - notorious cocaine and heroin origin country
    Peru (PE) - notorious cocaine origin country
    Bolivia (BO) - notorious cocaine origin country
    Venezuela (VE) - significant but marginal cocaine origin country with possibly rising market share
    Ecuador (EC) - significant but marginal cocaine origin country
    Canada (CA) is on Israel’s drug origin country watch list, and, specifically, XpressPost (express mail) from - Canada is often opened by US Customs indiscriminately. Note: Mail that is not XpressPost from Canada is usually not cause for extra concern.
    Spain (ES) is on Israel’s drug origin country watch list. This affects imports into Israel.
    France (FR) is on Israel’s drug origin country watch list. This affects imports into Israel.

Though their list may differ somewhat from global customs agencies including US Customs, the US State Department gives a decent idea about which countries they consider to be major sources of drugs. In their yearly International Narcotics Control Strategy Report, they give details about the following countries which they consider to be “Major Illicit Drug Producing, Drug-Transit, Significant Source, Precursor Chemical” countries. As of INCSR 2018 Volume 1, those are:

Major Illicit Drug Producing, Drug-Transit, and Significant Source Countries

Major Illicit Drug Producing and Major Drug-Transit Countries

A major illicit drug producing country is one in which:

A. 1,000 hectares or more of illicit opium poppy is cultivated or harvested during a year; B. 1,000 hectares or more of illicit coca is cultivated or harvested during a year; or C. 5,000 hectares or more of illicit cannabis is cultivated or harvested during a year, unless the President determines that such illicit cannabis production does not significantly affect the United States. [FAA § 481(e)(2)]

A major drug-transit country is one:

A. that is a significant direct source of illicit narcotic or psychotropic drugs or other controlled substances significantly affecting the United States; or B. through which are transported such drugs or substances. [FAA § 481(e)(5)]

The following major illicit drug producing and/or drug-transit countries were identified and notified to Congress by the President on September 13, 2017, consistent with section 706(1) of the Foreign Relations Authorization Act, Fiscal Year 2003 (Public Law 107-228):

Afghanistan, The Bahamas, Belize, Bolivia, Burma, Colombia, Costa Rica, Dominican Republic, Ecuador, El Salvador, Guatemala, Haiti, Honduras, India, Jamaica, Laos, Mexico, Nicaragua, Pakistan, Panama, Peru, and Venezuela.

Major Precursor Chemical Source Countries

The following countries and jurisdictions have been identified to be major sources of precursor or essential chemicals used in the production of illicit narcotics:

Afghanistan, Argentina, Bangladesh, Belgium, Bolivia, Brazil, Burma, Canada, Chile, China, Colombia, Costa Rica, Dominican Republic, Ecuador, Egypt, El Salvador, Germany, Guatemala, Honduras, India, Indonesia, Mexico, the Netherlands, Nigeria, Pakistan, Peru, Republic of Korea, Singapore, South Africa, Switzerland, Taiwan, Thailand, the United Kingdom, and Venezuela.
Countries known for strict customs enforcement on inbound international mail

Certain countries are known for having particularly strict customs inspections on incoming mail. Ordering contraband via international mail to and from these countries is up to the buyer, but generally discouraged because of the elevated risk of detection and arrest. Notable countries:

    Australia (AU)
    New Zealand (NZ)
    Israel (IL) - don’t order drugs to Israel from Canada, Spain, France or the Netherlands
    Norway (NO)
    Sweden (SE)
    Finland (FI)
    Singapore (SG) and many other Asian countries
    Most Middle Eastern countries

Also inform yourself if your country is part of some kind of organization or has trade deals with other countries that allows mail to get send more easily and gets less checked.

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